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Good low-end mountain bike?


I want to get back into casual/low-key mountain (hill?) biking.


I took my (very old) bike to get a tune-up and it needs so much work it would be over $300. I might as well get a new one.


Any suggestions for a mountain bike, say in the $400 range?


I think I'd prefer just high quality vs. lots of bells and whistles (e.g., I don't think I need a rear suspension, etc.)


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  asked on Jul 2, 2008


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Finding the right bike is more of an art than a science.


It seems like you've picked a price point, and from your question I don't think you're asking for something unreasonable.


PART I
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With that decision done, I'd say your next step is to visit a few local bike shops.


It's tough to recommend a specific bike (or even brand for that matter).


The most important thing is to go TEST RIDE a few. Then a few more. +/- All the bikes in this or (arguably) any specific range are going to be of equal quality.


What you want to do, is find one that *feels* right to you.


You won't know what I am talking about at first, but after a few test rides, you'll find one that just "feels" better.


Congrats, you've just found your bike. Now go test ride the other contenders again to make sure.


PART II
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Also, probably more importantly, just like you'll know when you find a good bike, you'll know when you find a good bike shop.


-- Their first questions will be to determine what kind of riding your really going to do.
-- They won't tell you to get full suspension. (this is specific to you, not a general rule)
-- They'll let you test and test and come back tomorrow to test ride again.
-- Before each test ride, they'll "fit" the bike to you.
-- After they see you ride off, they might offer other suggestion (you can tell a lot by just watching somebody pedal out of the parking lot!)
-- It will be hard for you to explain why you liked X better than Y, but they'll do their best to understand and tell you what you are noticing.
-- They won't be selling TVs in another department


BTW, considering it's summer you might be out of luck, but shops carry previous year models at some pretty substantial discounts. And there is probably a bit of wiggle room on the price of both "old" and "new."


Maybe a better question here is what's a good local bike shop? (I'm 500 miles south of you, so I cannot quite help there).


Once you find a good bike shop, your first question will take care of itself.


#1 - posted on Jul 2, 2008 (8:11 pm)


REI's Novarra brand in general, the Ponderosa is particularly good, although around $650. You should consider a front suspension. full suspension probablt necessary only for older people. Look at the Ponderosa at http://www.rei.com/product/760853


#2 - posted on Jul 2, 2008 (10:22 pm)


Thanks John, I'll head to REI and check their line out.


To Mike's point, any locals have suggestions on other good bike stores not too far from Cupertino?


I went to Bicycle Outfitters in Los Altos but wasn't too wowed...


#3 (reply to #2) - posted on Jul 3, 2008 (8:56 am)


Chain Reaction is worth a try... it's right around the corner from you at foothill near 280 (the shopping center with Trader Joe's). Of course it always comes down to the particular salesperson you deal with but they're definitely a decent shop.


#4 (reply to #3) - posted on Jul 3, 2008 (3:12 pm)


I bought a new Trek 4300 a little more than a year ago at Bicycle Outfitters in Los Altos. The MSRP was sub-$400. It's a pretty nice ride. It's heavy, but I would recommend you look at it. I ride it mainly on the streets, so I changed out the tires for some slicks to get a more comfortable ride (and to gain blinding speed). I also changed out the clip-less pedals for regular ones with Power-Grips. The changes put my cost over $400. I never took it in for a tune-up, so I can't say anything about the service at Bicycle Outfitters.


#5 - posted on Jul 5, 2008 (9:11 pm)


Thanks Shirish, that's just the range I'm looking for... Did you compare it to other bikes before settling on that one?


#6 (reply to #5) - posted on Jul 5, 2008 (10:17 pm)


I didn't do too much comparison shopping. May have peeked in at REI. Probably should have done more, but with an infant around who has the time. Plus at that price level, I figured I wouldn't regret it that much.


I haven't been riding the Trek 4300 too much these days. But the one gripe I have is that not all front/back gear combinations are allowable. In some combinations, the chain rubs and sometimes slips off. I was warned by the sales person that I would have to live with that, no amount of adjustment would give every combination. In the high end bikes I would expect better gears that allow every combination. Other than that, the brakes are pretty good (at least on level ground) and the front suspension has the right amount of sponginess (it may or may not be adjustable).


#7 (reply to #6) - posted on Jul 6, 2008 (7:47 pm)


Specialized or Trek. (Specialized is based in your neck of the woods, Morgan Hill.) Find a good bike shop and ride a couple of bikes. Skip the suspension unless you think you'll truly ride off-road. My neighbor just bought a Trek crossover/hybrid, i.e., bike path bike with disc brakes. Pretty nice lightweight, "HQ" machine.


#8 - posted on Jul 7, 2008 (10:50 am)


Hi Roy-
If you haven't found a bike yet, I recommend that you first go get "fit" for the bike. Choose a couple of brands, like Trek, Specialized, and Cannondale, and figure out what frame size you need. I would bet you are about a Med frame, or 17" frame in Mtn. bikes. Shope to try: Mike's Bikes in Palo Alto near Stanford on El Camino. Performance bikes in Mt. View/PA on El Camino, and The Off Ramp, which is a block from Performance in Mt. View. All those stores will have stuff in your price range. Once you figure out what size you are, talk components with the salespeople. Figure out the hierarchy of derailleurs, etc. For example, Shimano XTR used to be the top end derailleur, The XT was just below that , but significantly less in price. Front shocks are another story, but the salespeople can tell you the hierarchy.


Now then, why go to all this trouble? Because if you go to Craig's List, or Ebay, you'll find guys who got interested in Mt. Biking for about a year or so and rode their bikes 3 times. They spent $1500 on a lower end true X country Mt. Bike ride, with a good fork, great components, etc., and now they're selling it for $500. So, you'll get a great bike that you can actually take out on the trail if you ever get into it, but you could also just use it to dork around on the streets. It will take more work to go this route, but you'll get a good ride. Also, if you can find a gear head friend of yours who is into mountain biking, he/she can help accelerate the process.


Good luck!


#9 - posted on Jul 12, 2008 (2:15 pm)


PS on my last edit -- I erroneously sent it before final edit! - What I was trying to say is that once you figure out the right size frame, good components, etc., try to hunt for the bike on the web via Craigs' list or Ebay. Mtbreview.com also runs down previous year's models, so that might help you figure out which bikes on the web are in your price point. Wouldn't worry too much about getting jobbed via the web with a cracked frame or anything at the $500 price point. But, there is a chance you may be getting a "hot" bike if someone is selling a stolen rig. Check out the guy/gal's story. Good luck and sorry for the follow up post. I needed an "edit " option on my post!


#10 - posted on Jul 12, 2008 (2:21 pm)


Hey Chris, thanks for all the great info. I will go and get "fit."


I spent some time on MTbreview.com and must say all the terminology is pretty daunting. I may ping you as I get closer to picking something...


PS sorry about the missing 'edit' -- we'll add soon.


#11 (reply to #10) - posted on Jul 13, 2008 (7:43 am)


You can now edit a comment after you write it, so don't worry about typos; just click the 'edit' link beneath any comment you've written.


#12 - posted on Jul 15, 2008 (4:08 pm)



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